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From: krogers@UDel.Edu [mailto:krogers@UDel.Edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:38 PM
To: Beth Morling; krogers@UDel.Edu; schueler@UDel.Edu
Cc: Beth Morling
Subject: Re: PHIL465 as a DLE course.

Dear Prof. Morling,

(I do not speak for my chair here, just for myself.) I am dismayed at the committee's decision. I am not sure how you define "real world". Someone studying law might go to a law office for an internship, and I assume that would count as a "real world" experience because there, instead of just studying law, you work with real lawyers who are actually practicing law. But the law office is a very distinct culture and not part of most people's "real world". The senior seminar is relevantly similar in that in the course the students participate with the professional philosopher working on his or her research. Now it is true that, unlike with most other professionals, almost all professional philosophers live and work at universities. If the "real world" is, by definition, outside of a university, then there is no "real world" where professional philosophy is done.

But professional philosophy has an enormous impact on the so-called "real world". To take an example close to my heart, recently pop philosophy -- to be distinguished from PROFESSIONAL philosophy -- done by certain scientists against religion has had a big impact as evidenced by the NYTimes bestsellers lists. But then, of course, you need the professionals to point out the weakness of the pop philosophers' arguments, and real philosophers on all sides of the religion question have been weighing in. So professional philosophy has a broad and deep impact outside of the university. 

It seems to me to do a disservice to our majors to insist that they take a DLE course, but then to argue that intensive training in the actual practice of professional philosophy -- work with a real philosopher on an ongoing research project -- cannot count because it is not "in the real world".

I do hope your committee will reconsider.  

Let me know if you have further questions that I might be able to answer.

Thank you for your time,

Kate Rogers