Here is the email from Suzanne -- I know I have yet another one from
December, but I can't locate it just yet.  She will manually fix this as
promised.  I never thought changing a course number would be such an
issue, but it should be over now.

FYI - the "Multicultural Topics in Nursing" should not have MC status
anymore -- we were told this must be individual courses, not topics,
which pushed me for the renumbered/cross-list submission.  Hope that helps.

Thanks
Amy

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: new course for 2010-2011 - NURS412/WOMSXXX
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:12:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dr. Amy Nagorski Johnson <ajohnson@udel.edu>
To: Suzanne Stanley <sstanley@UDel.Edu>
References: <4ACB8D86.4090901@udel.edu>
<20091007082436.EFM68493@ms3.nss.udel.edu> <4ACCEE08.3070501@udel.edu>
<4ACCF775.40103@udel.edu> <20091007162344.EFN47234@ms3.nss.udel.edu>
<4ACCFBEA.4040306@udel.edu> <4ACCFE21.6030203@udel.edu>
<4AD384F3.3020301@udel.edu> <20091012165700.GAT73996@ms1.nss.udel.edu>
<20091012185018.EFT41115@ms3.nss.udel.edu>
<20091012210356.GAU08325@ms1.nss.udel.edu>
<20091014062640.EFV35144@ms3.nss.udel.edu> <4AD61F68.8090803@udel.edu>
<4AE83926.2000904@udel.edu>

you are wonderful, Sue -- thanks!

Amy Nagorski Johnson, PhD, RNC
Professor of Nursing
University of Delaware
office:  302-831-8369
fax:     302-831-2382

And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the
life in your years.          ~Abraham Lincoln



---- Original message ----
>Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:29:26 -0400
>From: Suzanne Stanley <sstanley@UDel.Edu
>Subject: Re: new course for 2010-2011 - NURS412/WOMSXXX 
>To: "Judith W. Herrman" <jherrman@UDel.Edu>
>Cc: Sue Clark <sclark@UDel.Edu>, ajohnson@UDel.Edu, Karen R Brinker <kcchem@UDel.Edu>, Monika Shafi <mshafi@UDel.Edu>
>
>Judy,
>
>I spoke with Karen Brinker this morning. She was trying to 'not approve'
>NURS412, which would send it back to Amy Johnson (submitter) and she
>received an error message. She told me the changes that needed to be
>made. I can edit certain areas of the form so I changed the grading
>basis to standard. I cannot change the course number - no on can at this
>point. I have to wait until the data is moved into UDSIS and then I can
>edit the course at that time.
>
>Karen mentioned that the course should be checked yes for Multicultural
>status, which it is and the MC justification information is included on
>the form. Is there anything else you would like me to change on the
>course? If not, I can add myself to Karen's role and move the course
>forward to the next approver.
>
>I updated the grading basis for WOMSXXX as well and changed the
>crosslisted information from NURS412 to NURS414. The WOMS course will
>error out when I move the data to UDSIS so I will have to manually fix
>the course later.
>
>Please let me know if you have any questions and if the course is ready
>to approve.
>
>Thank you,
>Suzanne
>
>Sue Clark wrote:
>
>> I think that works best. That way if nursing comes up with another
>> NURS412 (multicultural and like a NURS411) it can just be numbered
>> NURS412. The only think I don't know about is Amy's comment that topics
>> courses can't be m/c. I haven't see that directive, but so much is going
>> on these days, it is hard ot keep track.
>>
>> Judith W. Herrman wrote:
>>
>>> to all...I am having a tough time with this issue...so to all:  Can
>>> Amy's course..the women studies course, be introduced as NURS/WOMS
>>> 414?  that would leave the multicultural course as it stands with 412?
>>> We would then need to change our requirements such that 412/413/414
>>> course meet our 411 requirements?  Hope this works for all? jwh
>>>
>>> Dr. Judith W. Herrman, RN
>>> Coordinator-Undergraduate Program
>>> School of Nursing
>>> University of Delaware
>>> Newark, DE  19716
>>> 302-831-8380
>>> jherrman@udel.edu
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- Original message ----
>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:03:56 -0400 (EDT)
>>>> From: <sstanley@UDel.Edu>  Subject: Re: NURS412  To: "Judith W.
>>>> Herrman" <jherrman@UDel.Edu>
>>>>
>>>> Hello, Judith,
>>>>
>>>> I think we need to revisit this. I apologize - I was trying to get
>>>> through my emails. I am in a two day training session that is being
>>>> run by Human Resources and did not read the complete email trail
>>>> until just now.
>>>> When reviewing this - NURS412 - Multicultural Topics in Healthcare
>>>> Delivery and NURS412 WOMEN AND GENDER IN HEALTHCARE are two separate
>>>> courses. I think it's best to start with a new catalog number for
>>>> WOMEN AND GENDER IN HEALTHCARE and not try to renumber Multicultural
>>>> Topics in Healthcare Delivery. If I am missing the correlation
>>>> between the two courses, please explain it to me.
>>>> NURS412 - Multicultural Topics in Healthcare Delivery was put through
>>>> for revision in 2008.  Is there a problem with the course?  Does the
>>>> department not plan to offer it again?
>>>>
>>>> WOMSXXX cannot be used - but I can help find a catalog number for
>>>> WOMS after we work through the other issues.
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Suzanne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---- Original message ----
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:50:18 -0400 (EDT)
>>>>> From: "Judith W. Herrman" <jherrman@UDel.Edu>  Subject: Re: NURS412 
>>>>> To: sstanley@UDel.Edu
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks...do I just send it through the course inventory process as a
>>>>> revision? or can it just be assigned?jwh
>>>>> Dr. Judith W. Herrman, RN
>>>>> Coordinator-Undergraduate Program
>>>>> School of Nursing
>>>>> University of Delaware
>>>>> Newark, DE  19716
>>>>> 302-831-8380
>>>>> jherrman@udel.edu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---- Original message ----
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:57:00 -0400 (EDT)
>>>>>> From: <sstanley@UDel.Edu>  Subject: Re: NURS412  To: "Judy Herrman"
>>>>>> <jherrman@UDel.Edu>, "Sue Clark" <sclark@UDel.Edu>
>>>>>> Cc: "Dr. Amy Nagorski Johnson" <ajohnson@UDel.Edu>, "Suzanne F
>>>>>> Stanley" <sstanley@UDel.Edu>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NURS414 is available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Suzanne
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---- Original message ----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:35:15 -0400
>>>>>>> From: Judy Herrman <jherrman@UDel.Edu>  Subject: Re: NURS412  To:
>>>>>>> Sue Clark <sclark@UDel.Edu>
>>>>>>> Cc: "Dr. Amy Nagorski Johnson" <ajohnson@UDel.Edu>, Suzanne F
>>>>>>> Stanley <sstanley@UDel.Edu>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Suzanne...we have a little issue in nursing I hope you can
>>>>>>> solve.  Dr. Amy Johnson has proposed a new 412.  We have another
>>>>>>> course on the books done by Larry Purnell withthe 412 number...we
>>>>>>> would like to change his...could we reassign that another
>>>>>>> number...how about NURS414?  thanks...jwh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr. Judith W. Herrman, RN
>>>>>>> Coordinator-Undergraduate Program
>>>>>>> School of Nursing
>>>>>>> University of Delaware
>>>>>>> Newark, DE  19716
>>>>>>> 302-831-8380
>>>>>>> jherrman@udel.edu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sue Clark wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Suzanne Stanley can give you a new number and then we'll let
>>>>>>>> Amy's have NURS412. Is Larry going to continue to support his
>>>>>>>> course? I agree with Amy that we need more m/c courses in nursing
>>>>>>>> and we've got to get some breadth requirement courses. But if you
>>>>>>>> do submit breadth req. courses, they have to be open to everyone
>>>>>>>> without lots of prereqs. Amy do you know how we'll be notified
>>>>>>>> about that process?
I asked Carolyn Manning who is on the
>>>>>>>> committee and she thought a letter was coming but I don't know
>>>>>>>> who was to get it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dr. Amy Nagorski Johnson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would renumber Larry's course through the Senate course
>>>>>>>>> inventory. That would be the only change.  I am not sure how
>>>>>>>>> numbers are done, but perhaps using XXX like I did for the
>>>>>>>>> crosslist would work.  Sue -- any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Amy Nagorski Johnson, PhD, RNC
>>>>>>>>> Professor of Nursing
>>>>>>>>> University of Delaware
>>>>>>>>> Newark, DE     19716
>>>>>>>>> Office:  302-831-8369
>>>>>>>>> Fax:       302-831-2382
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to
>>>>>>>>> unlocking our potential.             ~ Winston Churchill
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Judith W. Herrman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have tried to follow this all day..what do I need to do?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Judith W. Herrman, RN
>>>>>>>>>> Coordinator-Undergraduate Program
>>>>>>>>>> School of Nursing
>>>>>>>>>> University of Delaware
>>>>>>>>>> Newark, DE  19716
>>>>>>>>>> 302-831-8380
>>>>>>>>>> jherrman@udel.edu
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---- Original message ----
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:17:57 -0400
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Sue Clark <sclark@UDel.Edu>  Subject: Re: NURS412  To:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Dr. Amy Nagorski Johnson" <ajohnson@UDel.Edu>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: "Judith W. Herrman" <jherrman@UDel.Edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You always know the inside scoop. Yes, it probably will be a
>>>>>>>>>>> good idea to renumber yours or we could renumber larry's since
>>>>>>>>>>> this proposal is already submitted. The title of NURS412 is
>>>>>>>>>>> Multicultural Topics in Nursing care. I'm not sure what the
>>>>>>>>>>> process is for changing a topics course to one that is not a
>>>>>>>>>>> topic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Amy Nagorski Johnson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was under the impression the other 412 will go away or need
>>>>>>>>>>>> to be renumbered.  Topics courses are not eligible for
>>>>>>>>>>>> multicultural and all are to be reviewed in the next year. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Would it be easier to renumber mine to 410 or close out the
>>>>>>>>>>>> other 412?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Amy Nagorski Johnson, PhD, RNC
>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor of Nursing
>>>>>>>>>>>> University of Delaware
>>>>>>>>>>>> Newark, DE     19716
>>>>>>>>>>>> Office:  302-831-8369
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax:       302-831-2382
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to
>>>>>>>>>>>> unlocking our potential.             ~ Winston Churchill
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Judith W. Herrman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they have different names?  this is the revision of the old
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 412....so she can have it be cross-listed with women's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> studies....I believe the other course will go away...Amy?jwh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Judith W. Herrman, RN
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coordinator-Undergraduate Program
>>>>>>>>>>>>> School of Nursing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> University of Delaware
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Newark, DE  19716
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 302-831-8380
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jherrman@udel.edu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---- Original message ----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:33:42 -0400
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Sue Clark <sclark@UDel.Edu>  Subject: NURS412  To:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Judith W Herrman <jherrman@UDel.Edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was just looking at the course inventory, challenge list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see the NURS412 proposal for Women and Gender in Health
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CAre. Since there is at least one other NURS412, how will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that be handled? Are you proposing a new number for that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one? YOu can't have 2 courses with different titles and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suzanne Clark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assistant Dean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> College of Health Sciences
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> University of Delaware
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 343 McDowell Hall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Newark, Delaware 19716